Q & A

Alumni of the Jackson Institute include graduates of the M.A. and B.A. in Global Affairs, the International Relations M.A. and the International Studies B.A. programs.

Robert Berschinski

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Class of 2008

Rob Berschinski is Senior Vice President for Policy at Human Rights First, where he works to advance a U.S. foreign policy rooted in a strong commitment to human rights, universal values, and American ideals.

Before joining Human Rights First, he served in the Obama Administration as Deputy Assistant Secretary of State for Democracy, Human Rights, and Labor. In that role, he was responsible for establishing and implementing U.S. government policies with respect to fundamental freedoms and democratic governance in 65 countries across Europe, Russia, Central Asia, and South Asia. He also served under Ambassador Samantha Power as Deputy Director of the U.S. Mission to the United Nations’ office in Washington, D.C.; worked as special assistant to then-Deputy Secretary of Defense Ash Carter; and spent three years as Director for Security and Human Rights Policy at the White House National Security Council. Berschinski earned his B.A. in Political Science and M.A. in International Relations from Yale University.

He recently talked to us about his career path, including his new role at Human Rights First.

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You’ve worked extensively within the government on foreign policy, national security, and human rights. What do you anticipate it will be like to be fighting for these same issues in the private sphere?
This is the first time in my professional career that I’ve been outside of government, so it’s a big change for me. Human Rights First is a nongovernmental nonprofit that believes that the best way to advance human rights and universal values around the world is for the United States to lead by example. Our mission is to make the case to the United States government—both the executive branch and Congress—that American leadership on human rights starts with upholding our own human rights commitments, and that maintaining a foreign policy firmly rooted in our values is the best way to ensure American security and prosperity.

Particularly given what we know about the Trump administration’s approach to human rights, it’s going to be a fairly tough advocacy environment. This means that groups like mine need to partner with a broader range of partners, such as members of Congress who are proponents of human rights, foreign governments that speak to and hold our government accountable, and members of the business community that have increasingly taken a lead in human rights advocacy.
How did your time at Yale shape your career interests? Specifically, what drew you to your current focus on human rights policy?
I went to Yale twice—I just couldn’t get enough. As an undergrad, I joined the ROTC and when I graduated became an intelligence officer in the U.S. Air Force. After completing my military service commitment, I came back to Yale to get a master’s in international relations—I graduated from that program shortly before the Jackson Institute was founded. It’s funny; in neither experience did I study human rights. When I came back for my masters, I planned to go back into government service—this time as a civilian—working on defense policy. After graduate school I did just that, working as a policy staffer in the Pentagon. Over time, it became more and more clear to me that there was an intersection between national security and human rights: you couldn’t do one without the other. Through a series of jobs at the White House and State Department I gradually migrated from defense policy to human rights issues.
Of all of Human Rights First’s current campaigns, which, in your opinion, is the most pressing or particularly pressing at this moment?
There are a few very important issues that Human Rights First has been focused on over the course of the last decade. For instance, making sure that the United States never goes back to using torture as an interrogation technique is something we’ve done a lot of work on. President Drumpf has said that he is a proponent of torture, but between restrictions that have been enacted by Congress and the fact that several of his Cabinet members disagree with him, it looks like that issue might be put to rest. The biggest “meta” issue we’re facing now is the question of whether the United States is going to walk away from its leadership role on human rights, and moreover walk away from its leadership of the liberal international order that emerged in the wake of WWII. While the current order has military, economic, and political components, it’s based in certain values that the United States has long cherished. We find it extremely worrying that the administration is considering abandoning this role, considering how beneficial the international order has been to both the U.S. and to the rest of the world. That’s really where our work is focused, though there are dozens of discrete issues and efforts that fall under this overarching theme.
You’ve held many diverse positions within the State Department, White House, and Department of Defense. How has being exposed to such a range of people and environments impacted your approach to your work?
On a professional level, I have really benefited from seeing how the foreign policy machinery works from a variety of different standpoints. Many of the policy issues that decision makers face are so complex that if you haven’t had a lot of exposure from different perspectives you can easily fall into the trap of only seeing a particular issue from your point of view. This is natural in one sense, but on the other hand, it makes for a less sophisticated approach to policy. So I’ve felt that an advantage of having had the opportunity to move around a lot is that while I may be advocating a certain position in a given policy conversation, I can understand where my counterparts at the Department of Defense and other agencies are coming from.

At the same time, there are different career models. There are people who are true experts in one field, and spend their entire careers in one place working on the same issue. I’ve found that these people are extremely valuable in terms of bringing a depth of expertise to the table. I’ve taken the career path of being a generalist, but I think you want both generalists and specialists to craft policy.
What advice would you give to current students interested in going into human rights policy?
This isn’t necessarily limited to human rights, but the best advice I can give is to spend at least a few years out and about in the world. A lot of people want to get to Washington and work in the government or at a think tank. All of that is well and good, but the people that I’ve seen who do the best work in a policy-making environment are people who have had the experience of being on the receiving end of national-level policy in some capacity. I got this sort of experience through my time in the Air Force, but there are many ways to go about it, whether it’s working in the Peace Corps, at an NGO, or in another arm of the U.S. government that works overseas. I think those that rush into the policy-making world are at a natural disadvantage in not knowing how the policy that they’re creating might impact people who are doing the actual work on the ground. If you’re an undergrad, go out and get a few years under your belt. That experience will be invaluable for the rest of your career.

Allison Cordell

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Class of 2016

Allison Cordell is a consultant with Deloitte Transactions and Business Analytics in the firm’s anti-money laundering practice. While at Yale, she focused her MA studies on anti-money laundering, countering organized crime and corruption, violence prevention and governance issues. She also served as the managing editor for articles for the Yale Journal of International Affairs. During the summer of 2015, she interned for the Ukrainian chapter of Transparency International, where she conducted anti-corruption research in support of the organization’s advocacy of reforms in Ukraine. Before Yale, Allison was a program assistant at the Mexico Institute of the Woodrow Wilson International Center for Scholars in Washington, D.C. In that role, she supported the Mexico Institute’s research agenda and conference coordination. Allison served in the Peace Corps in Guatemala, where she advised municipal authorities on improving efficiency and encouraged citizen participation in local development. Prior to that, she was an intern for the U.S. Department of State at the U.S. Embassy in Moscow. She received a BA in public policy studies (Phi Beta Kappa and summa cum laude) from Duke University.

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Tell us a little about yourself.
After graduation from college, I served in the Peace Corps in Guatemala. My primary role was to advise municipal authorities on how to be more efficient and transparent, and I also hosted a local television show about healthy cooking using low-cost ingredients. The experience was life-changing and set the stage for all of my career and academic pursuits that have followed.
Jackson offers a highly flexible curriculum. How did you tailor your academic experience to meet your interests and career goals?
My academic interests include violence prevention, countering organized crime, and anti-corruption policies. The flexible Jackson curriculum allowed me to take courses across the university that taught these inter-disciplinary topics through different lenses. In addition to Jackson's core classes, I studied anti-corruption at Yale Law School, global social entrepreneurship at the School of Management, and data analysis at the Graduate School's statistics department (just to name a few highlights of my time at Yale).
How did you spend the summer between your first and second years of the MA program?
I interned at the Ukrainian chapter of Transparency International, a leading anti-corruption NGO, and was based in Kiev. The internship offered me an invaluable opportunity to research the anti-corruption reforms that were passed after Ukraine's Revolution of Dignity. It was an incredible opportunity to be in the country during such a critical period in its democratic development.
Any special faculty mentors?
Many Jackson Institute professors and senior fellows offered me a superb education in the classroom, office hours, and round table events. Casey King mentored me from my first semester at Jackson; he not only introduced me to the anti-money laundering field, but he also has served as a regular source of advice on both academic and career matters.
How did your MA degree prepare you for your current role?
The master's program gave me valuable hard skills in statistics, economics, and a foreign language (Russian). A good education is broader than providing specific skills, and Jackson's research seminars prepared me to approach analytical projects with the confidence that I can find answers about topics that are new for me.

Corey Pattison

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Class of 2013

Corey Pattison is a young professional in the World Bank’s Fragility, Conflict, and Violence team. Since 2013, he has served as an advisor to the World Bank on its reengagement in Myanmar and its support to the national peace process, and  currently, on its relief and recovery efforts in Rakhine State. His work is focused on the intersection of development and peace building, and he is a lead author of the first joint UN-World Bank flagship study, “Pathways for Peace: Inclusive Approaches for Preventing Violent Conflict.” Pattison is currently pursuing a PhD in political science at Georgetown University and holds a masters in international relations from Yale University. His research has been supported by the Fulbright Program and his writing has appeared in Foreign Policy, Al Jazeera, and the Oxford Monitor of Forced Displacement.

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How did your time at Jackson shape both your personal interests and career path?
One of the things that attracted me to Jackson was its integration into the broader Graduate School of Arts and Sciences. I was interested both in learning skills that could be applied to development policy and programming, but also potentially pursuing a PhD. I had just finished two years of working in Gaza and Indonesia, specifically in conflict-affected areas. I naturally gravitated towards political science courses on civil war and political violence, and that really enabled me to connect those analytical interests and my professional goals in peace building and development. I think I came into Jackson with a lot of passion and ideas, and was able over two years to really specify how I wanted to pursue those, what kinds of analytical skills I needed, and what kind of career opportunities I wanted to pursue. On the latter, I really benefitted also from my engagement as a student liaison with the World Fellows. One World Fellow was actually the person who suggested that I consider working with the World Bank over my summer break, and I remain in close contact with another who continues to mentor me.
An emphasis in your research seems to be violence prevention. What led you to the subject/focus?
I’ve spent a large part of my adult life in places that have experienced or continue to experience war. The first job I ever had was working in Gaza. So, the effects of large-scale violence have really shaped my perspective on most things, including social and economic development. Beyond the profound human costs, it became evident to me that where conflict—an inevitable part of society—becomes violent, the institutions that societies have developed to manage conflict become weakened and can be used as tools to exclude. In those situations, external actors have much more limited influence to mitigate the worst consequences and shape peaceful trajectories. Moreover, it’s the period immediate following large-scale violent conflict that the international community deploys large amounts of aid (though often not large enough to cover the needs), which usually cannot be absorbed by weak institutions and certainly cannot be sustained long enough to overcome set-backs and emerge from a cycle of violence and fragility. In short, then, there are potentially huge savings in terms of human and economic costs, if the international community can reorient itself towards a proactive, preventative approach. That is hardly straightforward—there are financial, political, and organizational incentives are aligned against it, but this is the goal of the recent UN-World Bank flagship study, Pathways for Peace: Inclusive Approaches to Preventing Violence Conflict that I’ve co-authored, which is the first jointly-authored study between the two institutions. It’s a small but important step, I think.
Could you speak a little bit about your time working with the World Bank in Myanmar? What was it like to be a part of the World Bank’s first effort after such a long absence from the country?
I feel very lucky to have been part of the early re-engagement efforts. Before 2011, Myanmar was an extremely isolated country, with little exposure to global ideas, technology, and services. After the Myanmar government began to reform, things began to change extremely quickly. There was a lot of optimism and, indeed, a lot of progress on many fronts such as telecoms. The World Bank office had an-almost start-up feel to it; we were operating from a hotel room, in fact. It was really different from “business as usual”: most people inside and outside government had no idea about how the World Bank operated, and we likewise had a lot of learning to do about how to operate effectively and responsibly in Myanmar. The World Bank is somewhat unique amongst development partners in that it works almost exclusively through government systems, which had not been the case in Myanmar for most other development partners. In that sense, we were also some of the first international partners to work alongside government colleagues within government ministries. The scale of the challenge, especially against the backdrop of popular domestic and international expectations, was huge. I have a tremendous amount of respect and admiration for Myanmar colleagues who really worked tirelessly for those first few years and achieved so much.

I think we made some minor, but not insignificant progress, in some areas—I was part of several meetings at the local level that was the first between government and representatives of ethnic armed groups, following decades of civil war, and that was very exciting. But in other areas, like Rakhine State, the situation has continued to deteriorate, and this has been profoundly disappointing and challenging.
You were recently selected for the World Bank Young Professionals Program. Can you tell us a bit about the program and what you hope to get out of it?
I was selected as part of this year’s cohort, which numbers 49 on the World Bank side and 13 on the International Finance Corporation (IFC) side. The YPP is the oldest recruitment program at the World Bank. The intention is to develop future leaders within the institution, so there are many resources as part of the program to enable Young Professionals to develop their respective technical depth and breadth across different functional areas of the World Bank. I think many YPs would say that one of the greatest strengths of the program is the cohort itself—I find many veteran YPs from classes a couple decades ago still regularly get together with their cohort, professionally and personally; this can be really helpful inside such a large institution as the World Bank, where it can be easy to get lost.

I hope that the YPP will help facilitate opportunities to learn about areas across the institution that I might not otherwise have—technical subjects, regions, exposure to senior management, etc.
What advice would you give to students interested in international development?
I think it’s vital that students get experience on the ground early in their career. Too often, well-intentioned and thoughtfully-designed ideas break down in implementation because people don’t really appreciate the scale and the complexity of the challenges in poor countries, especially ones that are impacted by fragility, conflict, and violence. Understanding the challenges and opportunities in these contexts is increasingly important for those wanting to working in international development—by 2030, projections show that 60 percent of the world’s poor will live in countries affected by fragility, conflict, and violence, and these areas are qualitatively different from peaceful contexts. So, whether students spend their career working in developing countries or working on developing countries, I think it’s critical that they have some mental reference points against which they can compare policy or program design ideas to ensure that they are realistic and feasible. For many, personal and family reasons can make it more difficult to get this experience later in one’s career, so it’s good to do this early; ideally, in a few different contexts across regions.

Rachel Korberg

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Class of 2013

Rachel Korberg is an Associate Director at The Rockefeller Foundation, where she leads the Foundation’s efforts to identify new, large-scale opportunities for impact. Her portfolio includes a global workshop series, big data and analytics work, and strategic advisory to the Foundation’s executive leaders. She has also managed early-stage research into the sharing economy, urban food insecurity, and economic exclusion in cities, as well as grant making on financial inclusion and economic recovery in the aftermath of Ebola in West Africa.

Korberg was previously vice president at the venture capital and investment advisory firm Serengeti Capital. Earlier, she served both as an aid worker and in strategy, monitoring, and evaluation roles in Sub-Saharan Africa and Central Asia with Innovations for Poverty Action, ACTED, and National Democratic Institute (NDI). As a graduate student, she worked with USAID.

Korberg has executive training in innovation and human-centered design from Stanford University and is a trained facilitator, having designed and facilitated sessions in settings ranging from an executive retreat at the Bellagio Center in Italy to a gathering of social justice activists in rural North Carolina. She holds a master’s degree in international relations from Yale University, where she was a research assistant to former World Bank President James Wolfensohn, and a BA with high honors from Tufts University.

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How did your experience at Jackson impact your personal interests and career trajectory?
What drew me to Jackson was the ability to learn from a diverse group of fields and people. While I was there, I took classes not just at Jackson, but also at the School of Management, Law School, School of Public Health, and the School of Forestry and Environmental Studies. This helped me learn how to be a translator between fields and perspectives. For example, in my job now I may have to speak Silicon Valley in the morning and then organizer or scientist in the afternoon – having taken courses and learned with leaders in all of those spaces has really helped.
You’ve been involved in several private non-profit organizations and government agencies. How has this varied experience informed the way you approach your work?
My career was initially in the global development and humanitarian world. I wanted to be part of the movement to improve the way that the U.S. helps people and communities in their most vulnerable moments – amidst a drought or war, in the face of poverty. I found myself working for large nonprofits and setting up monitoring and evaluation units in Burkina Faso, Tajikistan, and elsewhere. We were trying to build stronger feedback loops between big, development aid programs and the populations they aimed to serve and then use that information to craft better, more collaborative strategies.

At a certain point though, I think I was, frankly, really frustrated to not see more results, to see a lot of work happening without enough impact and collaboration with the communities that were actually living these challenges. At the same time, I was seeing local businesses spring up in rural India or poor parts of Nairobi that created jobs and incredible opportunity for people. I needed a moment to reflect and retool. I was grateful that Jackson gave me an opportunity to do that.

While at Jackson, I ended up building my skills in business strategy and finance. I then took a job as VP at a frontier markets investment firm. One of my favorite projects was a market study on energy efficient appliance manufacturing in Ghana, and we later advised the government on how to spur more manufacturing. Jackson helped me to make that shift into the private sector.
What of your current research/projects are you most excited about?
I’m currently an Associate Director at The Rockefeller Foundation. My role combines both my nonprofit and investment advisory and venture capital experience—I lead our efforts to identify and scope new, big bets. I especially focus on financial inclusion and economic opportunity.

My favorite project at the moment is an exploration I’m leading on the gig economy and self-employment in the U.S., where one-quarter of our labor force is now working. I think business, workers, and government – with support from philanthropy – have an opportunity to come together and really reimagine the social contract. We need to build a 21st century social contract that ensures that if you work hard, you will be okay and have economic stability for yourself and your family. Right now, that’s not true in America.
What advice would you give to students interested in international development or the other fields you find yourself involved in?
For students who are specifically interested in global development, I would say don’t be afraid of digging into policy and business approaches – get outside of the typical tools. Explore and really grapple with as many criticisms about development aid as you can, especially those from the communities that are receiving development aid.

Take at least one class on something that you’ve never done before; it’s really your last opportunity. Don’t be afraid to put yourself in a class that isn’t meant for you. The best class I took while at Jackson was a six-person, PhD-level history seminar with Tim Snyder.

What I loved most about Jackson was the commitment to service that all the students had. About half of my class was former military, and despite my being an aid worker at the time, I quickly realized we had a ton in common as people who were all committed to serving in some way. Jackson students come from all different places and sectors, but because it’s such a small program we couldn’t break off into little cliques. We really spent time together and expanded each other’s perspectives. It’s a great community.

Lawule Shumane

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Class of 2017

Lawule Shumane is an analyst with Dalberg Global Development Advisory in South Africa. She holds an MA in Global Affairs from Yale University.

As an economics scholar, Shumane’s interests lie at the nexus of politics and economics – understanding how governments, globally, can better service their populations, thus, gradually reducing citizen deprivation. Professionally, Shumane has been actively involved in South Africa’s civic society as she worked for a non-profit labor research organization where she published articles on the behavior of South African multinationals in other African countries regarding their Community Social Responsibility and Environmental practices, as well as a study of CEO remuneration for listed companies in South Africa. Additionally, she worked for UCT’s Graduate School of Development Policy and Practice, assisting in the research, development and implementation of their inaugural Leading in Public Life Programme.

Shumane completed her undergraduate studies at the University of Cape Town (UCT). 

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Could you tell us a bit about your work at Dalberg Advisors?
I currently work at Dalberg Advisors as an analyst – a role which requires the ability to conduct and complete directed research for the challenge you are trying to address, synthesizing the research and presenting it in a manner that is accessible to the clients we work for. Ideally, the role also exposes you to multiple sectors and interest areas. So far, I have worked on agriculture, financial inclusion and developed strategies for organizations committed to sustainability as well as multilateral organizations who are trying to achieve growth and stability on the African continent.
How did your time at Jackson shape your personal and career interests? What part of your time at Jackson made the biggest impact on you?
Jackson expanded the locus of my personal and career interests. I had always been interested in working in economic development in Africa but the time at Jackson, with the talent that the institution attracts, I began to think differently about global interconnectedness and how different countries on the continent position themselves to improve the lives of their citizens. The students that Jackson attracts and the faculty have been the most influential in shaping and reshaping my ideas about sustainable international development and I have used these insights repeatedly in mu job now as I think about what is most useful to the stakeholders I engage with.
You’ve published an extensive collection of research on a wide range of subjects. Could you tell us a bit about the research you’ve done and what you’re working on now?
I have done quite a bit of work on South Africa’s education system because it is such a big national challenge. My research largely focused on the political economy of South Africa’s education challenge and how it manifests in different regions of the country. I’ve also contributed to a published a piece on energy in India, Uganda, Senegal and Nigeria over the Summer I interned at Dalberg Advisors while I was at Yale. I am currently not working on anything for publication but I am currently working on, and thinking about understanding informal economies in South Africa and other countries on the continent, where the evidence is applicable. This is still at the beginning stages though.
What is one of the issues in your field that you feel is most overlooked by the international public?
I think often the international community overlooks the effect of domestic politics on economic growth trajectories in many developing countries. By this I mean that often, coverage of developing country politics is about elections and other markers of democracy, very seldom do I interact with more nuanced analysis like the incentives of politicians, their ideologies and how this has come to shape local institutions. I think providing more complex analysis of developing world politics would help create better understanding of systemic challenges and more thoughtful ways of addressing them.
What advice would you give to students interested in international development, particularly in Africa?
Immerse yourself in as much as you can to get the most out of the experience. Two years goes by quickly and although there is some structure, the program is designed for exploration and full immersion. There’s much to learn from classrooms, talks and fellow students across the Yale campus. Take advantage of this!